Monday, March 21, 2011

Current Events

Now I know this is a historical forum,but the main reason to learn history(besides that it is fascinating!) is so that we can be better prepared for the future.This post is to get everyone's opinion on the turmoil in the Middle East:Egypt is now a fledgling(and vulnerable)democracy,
Libya seems to be going in that direction as well with the actions of the UN,Bahrain is threatening to call in aid from eastern powers(read China here) if the West gives support to their rebels,Saudi Arabia trying to expand it's influence farther,and the anti-Israel terrorist group,Hamas,is trying to merge with the equally anti-Israel country of Syria.
I want your opinion on how things will turn out.How will the USA come out of it?Do you think that that President Obama is doing the right thing by riding the diplomatic "fence"?

My opinion is that these democracies are too young,too fragile,and too heavily biased, to withstand the pressures that are thrust upon them.(e.g:Muslim population,Autocratic heritage,corruption, international pressures) They need some form of support to keep them up.

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  1. My opinion is that Islam(read Sharia) and democracy are incompatible. I think that trying to create Islamic democracies is a bad idea. I also so do not believe that democracy is the ideal we (the US) are not one (a democracy) for a reason but a republic instead.
    I thought Egypt had a military coup has it truly changed to democratic or republican form of government?
    Missed the news about Hamas and Syria and that about Bahrain threatening to bring in China.
    If we were to get involved supporting Mubarak would havebeen more inline with US interests then attacking Libya.

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  2. 2StrawHat Egypt did not have a military coup the people over through the government and then asked the military to take over until they could reestablish it.
    Boy that's a had one Gryphon. But the Idea the a foren power can intervene in a sovereign nations internal affairs for no other resin then they don't like the way they do things is piety scary. If to can happen to them it could happen to us!

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  3. @Rennuke I believe evidence indicates that the Egypt did in fact have a military coup. (I have spent over an hour trying to see if I was wrong.) It seems to have been the military that resign/forced out Mubarak. The supreme military council took over control. Now since then they(the military council) may have been moving the state toward democracy. This does not change the fact that they carried out a coup.

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  4. I must correct a mis-statement from my original post.Egypt is "becoming" a new republic.(but IS currently a Military dictatorship)The Military Supreme Council passed a constitutional referendum that guaranteed,

    "a limitation on the presidency to at most two four-year terms, judicial supervision of elections, a requirement for the president to appoint a deputy, a commission to draft a new constitution following the parliamentary election, and easier access to presidential elections by candidates—via 30,000 signatures from at least 15 provinces, 30 members of a chamber of the legislature, or nomination by a party holding at least one seat in the legislature."

    This has not been implemented yet,but I assumed that the current military government would stand by it so I classified it falsely as a democracy(when it should have been Republic,sorry)

    I am of the same opinion that the Sharia can not exist in a representative government.(Sharia being Muslim LAW.I do not believe we have the right to outlaw Islam completely,but when you live in the USA you follow the USA's rules and laws.)

    I know.The idea of a foreign government occupying ours should be anathema to any self-respecting American. I am not trying to say we should be Empire-building,but I just think we have a responsibility to safeguard (1 our own interests.(2 the interests of weaker nations.(those two can coincide)

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  5. Okay. I accept that you think they are becoming a republic but is/was a dictatorship.
    P.S. I have still not gotten posting of links to work but this maybe be because of I post as a guest.

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  6. http://www.chromeexperiments.com/webgl/?f=webgl

    Still unsure why you are not able to post links. Do you try linking to the same site each time, or have you tried other sites also?

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  7. I have tried different links. http://www.usa.gov/

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  8. GovernmentactivistpcMarch 31, 2011 at 3:54 PM

    Okay it worked that time.

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  9. @TS Will you please remove the two of my comments that list the user name as govermentactivistpc.

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